Post by Amaranthim on Jul 10, 2014 3:38:00 GMT -8
So - we have been following the Berlin sim discussion in the IW forums and in the FB page. I keep gripping in my head there isn't enough posted on this forum so I am going to take the bull by the horns and drag it out of the box - talk about your mixed metaphors.
Of course, having kept up, I do know what some of the feelings are. But I thought we could discuss things here civilly. Mind you- I should proly wait for Hairy to get up so he can tell me I am insane for broaching the subject -
I talked to one of the parties tonight. I do not feel comfortable in the sim, it does not attract me- however- I am not into shooters, so if they were re-enacting Battlefield Earth, or the Civil War or any number of historical or fake battles, I would still not feel comfortable- so don't take it as a strike. The guy I spoke with was unfailingly polite. He explained they just wanted to do this RP thing - PERIOD. He was annoyed that he had received so many personal attacks in IM's etc- even from people that had not seen the sim.
The place isn't open yet- but let me tell you- they have their ducks in a row. They are - he is - as fully versed in what they are setting up and doing as any one about to get hit with a crap load of stuff needs to be. I imagine they lived thru a lot in SL.
I stated it in the FB page and I restate it now- why did no one have a fit over Judy creating WWII Japanese planes? The Japanese blew the eff out of Pearl Harbor, dragged America unavoidably into the war, the Japanese committed horrible crimes against so much of humanity at that point - (Not that America's hands are clean in regards to internment camps- something that is often a subject here in the US, btw).
And not that it compares to the what the nazis did- but the fact is - the Japanese did a whole hell of a lot of harm.
I really did not enjoy my visit to the sim. The guy was very nice- but the sim bothered me- but- seriously people- not because of history- but because the bloodshed WE as humans have caused across history to our brothers and sisters. I still came away with- these are just people taking a stab at roleplay.
Honestly - this too shall pass.
So- I wrote all that last night and overnight there have been developments. I got additional IM's in world from one of the owners. The AH account has been taken down or will be shortly, he blurred out the writing and the swastikas on the last remaining posters. In other words, hey are going way over and beyond what is required of them, in order to be ACCEPTED into our community. They don't have any reason to do this, you know- but they do not want to harm their new home. Which is how I appealed to him last night- saying, this is now YOUR home too and the sim has caused divisions in our community.
So - what I am hoping is that we as the Residents of IW can accept that these folks are among us. They are trying to enjoy the world and trying now not to cause offense. Some may say too little, too late, but those same folks could have approached them and explained a few things from the get go.
I have been guilty more than once of shooting off my big mouth before thinking and I know what it is to feel like shit over it. I hope people will let this just be done and go about our lives- Honestly- I think it is destined to fail from lack of interest- but who knows.
Of course, having kept up, I do know what some of the feelings are. But I thought we could discuss things here civilly. Mind you- I should proly wait for Hairy to get up so he can tell me I am insane for broaching the subject -
I talked to one of the parties tonight. I do not feel comfortable in the sim, it does not attract me- however- I am not into shooters, so if they were re-enacting Battlefield Earth, or the Civil War or any number of historical or fake battles, I would still not feel comfortable- so don't take it as a strike. The guy I spoke with was unfailingly polite. He explained they just wanted to do this RP thing - PERIOD. He was annoyed that he had received so many personal attacks in IM's etc- even from people that had not seen the sim.
The place isn't open yet- but let me tell you- they have their ducks in a row. They are - he is - as fully versed in what they are setting up and doing as any one about to get hit with a crap load of stuff needs to be. I imagine they lived thru a lot in SL.
I stated it in the FB page and I restate it now- why did no one have a fit over Judy creating WWII Japanese planes? The Japanese blew the eff out of Pearl Harbor, dragged America unavoidably into the war, the Japanese committed horrible crimes against so much of humanity at that point - (Not that America's hands are clean in regards to internment camps- something that is often a subject here in the US, btw).
And not that it compares to the what the nazis did- but the fact is - the Japanese did a whole hell of a lot of harm.
I really did not enjoy my visit to the sim. The guy was very nice- but the sim bothered me- but- seriously people- not because of history- but because the bloodshed WE as humans have caused across history to our brothers and sisters. I still came away with- these are just people taking a stab at roleplay.
Honestly - this too shall pass.
So- I wrote all that last night and overnight there have been developments. I got additional IM's in world from one of the owners. The AH account has been taken down or will be shortly, he blurred out the writing and the swastikas on the last remaining posters. In other words, hey are going way over and beyond what is required of them, in order to be ACCEPTED into our community. They don't have any reason to do this, you know- but they do not want to harm their new home. Which is how I appealed to him last night- saying, this is now YOUR home too and the sim has caused divisions in our community.
So - what I am hoping is that we as the Residents of IW can accept that these folks are among us. They are trying to enjoy the world and trying now not to cause offense. Some may say too little, too late, but those same folks could have approached them and explained a few things from the get go.
I have been guilty more than once of shooting off my big mouth before thinking and I know what it is to feel like shit over it. I hope people will let this just be done and go about our lives- Honestly- I think it is destined to fail from lack of interest- but who knows.